Mostly great ideas. the problem is selling those ideas to the people who benefit from big government, the majority. Not a chance they can win so you have to choose from the lesser of two evils. If social issues are your main concern, then vote for a moderate Democrat, if fiscal issues are your main concern, then vote for a moderate Republican. If principle is the diving force, then waste your vote for the Libertarian candidate. It's lonely being a Libertarian.
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Your thoughts on the Libertarian party
by James Mixon ini really like what governors w.weld and g. johnson bring to the table.. not familiar with the libertarian party and will do some investigation,.
but any thoughts on this party..
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What is it going to take for her to wake up? 2016 convention was the biggest display of B.I.T.E
by goingthruthemotions inso i went to the convention this past weekend.
not, because i wanted to....but, because i had no choice.. i took myself and our son's out walking every chance i had, i made it so we missed the bunker video, the drama, the stupid dream squashing video with the violin.. but, while in there sitting.
one of the speakers said this:.
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I feel your pain and frustration.
II wish you had recorded it. Turn your frustration into an intense desire to undermine the power of the cult. Words like the ones you quoted need to be out in the court of public opinion.
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Recent mistakes of the Governing Body contributing to the decline of JWs
by slimboyfat inthey have made so many strategical mistakes it's hard to keep track.
some changes within the last decade or so that are contributing to declining numbers of jws:.
1. elimination of book study groups, the most informal, enjoyable and sociable of the jw meetings, contributed to loss of sense of community among jws.. 2. policy of consolidating kingdom halls.
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Their decline would have happened even if they had not done anything, at a slower pace though. They just accelerated their demise. The internet and greater access to education in the last 50 years will erode the power of religion, any religion.
In the case of the JW leadership, I have a conspiracy theory that I find attractive and plausible. Some people on charge of finances likes the idea of reducing membership because it will enable them to convert into vanishing liquid assets some of their huge real estate portfolio.
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I have no prblems with "new light"
by Doug Mason inthere is nothing wrong with accepting new ideas.
even apostle paul changed his mind when he "saw the light".
indeed, i hope to learn new things every day.
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The problem is not just forcing people to accept new ideas, but forcing them to accept ideas that are far more ridiculous than previous ones. Overlapping generations anyone?
New ideas are supposed to bring progress, more consistency and harmony into our body of knowledge.
Some religious groups move backwards into medieval times (Bible literalists in the U.S.), others like JW's move into senseless chaos or la-la land.
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Catholic women diacons...
by mikeflood inpope francis sets study commission for women diacons.....could the watchtower follow sometime in the future?.
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Could the Watchtower follow sometime in the future?
Only if they want to stay alive in the the 22nd century. I get the feeling that they rather commit suicide.
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After Jesus fasted for 40 days, he was tempted by a man (not a fallen angel).
by quincemyles inafter jesus fasted for 40 days, he was tempted by a man (not an evil angel) to turn stones into bread, jump from the temple and bow.
the tester was a pharisee of the ruling class.
jehovah's witnesses believe the tester to have been an evil spirit or leader of fallen angels named satan the devil.
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They borrowed the Devil and demons concepts from their godless neighbors.
That's a new one. Devil and demons, but no God. I always thought that God came first, then the Devil
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After Jesus fasted for 40 days, he was tempted by a man (not a fallen angel).
by quincemyles inafter jesus fasted for 40 days, he was tempted by a man (not an evil angel) to turn stones into bread, jump from the temple and bow.
the tester was a pharisee of the ruling class.
jehovah's witnesses believe the tester to have been an evil spirit or leader of fallen angels named satan the devil.
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Doesn`t the book of Job allude to a fallen Angel?
No, I don't believe so. The so called fallen angel is a concept that was first hinted in the 1 Chronicles 21:1 (compare to 2 Samuel 24:1 where there is no Satan whatsoever). Any other time the word satan appears in the OT is a concept, someone who opposes or blocks or argues against, an accuser, an adversary, which is precisely the role of Satan in the book of Job. He is just someone who is having a different position from God. The word later evolved into a proper name with a capital "S", Satan. This is an idea that definitely is post Babylonian exile. Quite likely developed during the Persian or Greek periods
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Listen to Terri O'Sullivan XJW on Croydon Radio !
by Phizzy interri o'sullivan was interviewed by croydon radio for a programme called "leap of faith", it was broadcast on sunday.. she does a great job of showing how wacky and weird the jw beliefs and practices are, the interviewer asks perceptive questions, either he was well briefed by terri or he is an ex jw !.
she also gives info.
on her meetup group for xjw's, great fun !.
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I am with Slim. The missing details may not justify the actions, but at least may soften the idea of mom being extreme. Possibly just an old fashion mom, but not extreme. My Catholic maternal grandma would have done exactly the same to my mother if she knew that my mom had come late and had been with a boyfriend. And my grandma would have had the approval of most people her age and generation.
The problem with perceived exaggerations is that they may detract from the messenger's credibility, even when the message is accurate and fair.
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Low Day For Me Today
by pale.emperor inhi guys.
it's been about 4 or 5 weeks since i was disfellowshipped.
so far it's been easy, i enjoyed being left alone, no one bothering me, no one telling me i need to do more, need to reach out, questioning why i didnt go on the ministry, and the fact that my ex-wifes family cant talk to me even if they wanted to.
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Sorry pale emperor,
I live in Los Angeles, and in a way, have a similar problem. In my case, however, is my choice. I am more of a introvert. The great difference is that I can freely bash the Governing Body and, believe it or not, my family (wife , children, brothers, nephews and nieces) becomes more friendly few hours/days after the rant. Swear to the Spaghetti monster, it's true.
I mentioned that I live in L.A. in case you live in the area and want to meet, we may have common hobbies and interests, besides our hate of the cult.
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Do they prepare for preaching or do they socialize?
by never a jw inmy brother (a jw for 30 years) and i purchased a duplex.
he lives in one house, i live in the other, our common area separating both houses is the backyard.
we both can see each other's house across our common backyard.
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Blondie's description sounds quite close
Saename
If my estimates help me right, it wasn't 10 minutes before the text, it was more like 1/2 hour of socializing, then the elder speaks about new literature to offer, and something about how ladies and men do things differently (couldn't hear exactly what), then about 3/4 or more of laughs and lively conversation (not Armageddon definitely)
Next weekend I will try spying and recording with my cell phone. And perhaps send the recording to Warwick for some input.
Marina,
JW's are usually quite pleasant, as long as they don't turn on their doom-and-gloom-for-everyone-but-us switch. I actually will consider bringing some nice pastries filled with apostate poison.
Steve,
It wasn't long ago that I saw the same zeal in my brother and other old timers. Now my brother spends a lot of time helping his adult children with their coffee business and does lots of home projects. I don't think he even has a Bible study with anyone anymore. Commonly he had two or three at a time and religion occupied most of his spare time..
When I question his religion' doctrines and beliefs, instead of defending the JW position he evades the subject by saying
"we have nowhere to go" or
"nobody is disfellowshipped for attending university" or
"to prove 607 bce I am not interested in what archaeology or astronomy have to say, just the Bible" or
"regarding the Flood, I am not interested in discussing it"
"i am not interested in the Australia Royal Commission investigation, it must be persecution. People have accused us of being Russian spies"
etc, etc.